A working group of the SNB for Capio, the Swedish health care company, met with management to consider a possible agreement for a European Works Council 4 October 2005. The meeting was disappointing. Very limited progress was made compared to a full SNB meeting in March 2005. Difficult issues remain: definition of information and consultation, EPSU presence, extraordinary meetings in exceptional circumstances, the role of the Coordinating Group (or Steering Committee), frequency of its meetings and interpretation and translation facilities. A further effort will be made by a smaller team to reach positive solutions.